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 Post subject: Importing TRD
 Post Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:52 pm 
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I have a question and I hope this doesnt offend anyone. Has anyone imported their TRD? If so, what was your experience?

Are they more aggressive then dogs born here in the U.S?

Can you let me know.


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 Post subject: Re: Importing TRD
 Post Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:09 pm 
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Importing from where? Different places have different cultures and ideas about how they regard pets and raise animals. Dogs in Europe are generally raised the same as here. Dogs in Thailand typically are kennel raised outside. Importing carries a lot of risk because really you have no legal recourse in other countries and even if a breeder does uphold their end of a contract on a defective dog it is an expensive undertaking to get a replacement. Unless you are breeding and have a real need of new blood there really is no reason to take the risk of import when you can get them here IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Importing TRD
 Post Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 10:02 pm 
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I agree with RegalThai. Although I did not import my dog, health issues, socialization and behavior issues are all things to consider when importing a dog from a Country that does not regard dogs the same as we do here in the U.S. Of course, there are the exceptions, but the norm needs to be a great consideration in the import of any dog.


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 Post subject: Re: Importing TRD
 Post Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 1:21 am 
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Thanks for responding. I did a little research and yes you are all right. It is really expensive to import. I will stick to the good olde U.S.A when i purchase my pup. I am in Texas and hopefully where ever I decide to get a pup from, maybe I could drive and pick him/her up. thanks again guys.


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 Post subject: Re: Importing TRD
 Post Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 5:01 pm 
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Has anyone heard of http://trdbreed.thport.com/

If so, what was your experience with them. I saw Noi on a Youtube vid talking about what she and others are doing to keep the Thai Ridgeback as the country's Dog. I know what I want to say but the dang word escapes me lol.


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Haven't been to her site yet (thank you for posting it), but we did check out the videos on youtube featuring her kennel, ideas etc..

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1737


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 Post subject: Re: Importing TRD
 Post Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 4:15 am 
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I didn't like the bit about making TRD into a commodity for export but I know a few people in Europe have dogs from her.

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 Post subject: Re: Importing TRD
 Post Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 10:13 pm 
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I contacted her and this is what she had to say..............

Hello Eryka,
Thank you for your enquiry.
I passed a request to my cargo people, I'll let you after hearing from them about the shipping cost to Texas.
Normally my pup are classified in 3 categories - Pet, breeding or show class. The puppy net price of a pet class 1,000-1,500 $ while the breeding quality will be 1,500 up, and the show class can be over 2,000. This is for any color.
In principle, Pup can fly abroad at the age of 4 months old.
Stay in touch,
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Noi


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 Post subject: Re: Importing TRD
 Post Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 12:24 am 
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Breeding and Show are two different things? Because pretty much everywhere else in the world people show dogs in order to breed them. I'm confused about what that is supposed to mean. If you really have your heart set on an import we have a Thai member that helps us out I can get you in touch with. She knows the good breeders over there well and visits family in Thailand often. You need to be serious about getting a dog though. Please don't waste her time and piss her off.

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 Post subject: Re: Importing TRD
 Post Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:49 pm 
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Hello
Breeding and Show quality are for me the same.
Ofcourse, If someone want just dog for breeding and don´t want going to shows, after don´t need Show quality dog, but only dog which will fulfill criteria for inclusion in breeding. Here in Czech rep. is required pass 1x club dog show with result Excellent or Very Good. Ofcourse after that is another conditions. So It´s not necessary have champion dog.
Ofcourse breeding with champion dogs is better, because it´s possible that theirs pups will be same quality and can sell them for higher price, but it is not rule.

So maybe this is different between Breeding and Show quality dogs.

Another problem is that. How someone can be sure for 100% that this pup will become to Breeding or Show quality dog... Pups are still growing, so can happen that when pup look great for shows in 3-6 months it doesn´t mean that this pup will become to champion when grows up...

and about import TRD by plane. it´s for sure stressful for this dogs, but i don´t think that this dogs become too agressive because this travel. it can happen, but mostly its not problem of dog but from human mistakes of training. I know some dogs who were imported from thailand or other countries and some of them are friendly and some are not.

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IMO no one here in the U.S is breeding for show, since no one is really showing. Once a breeder has an established line, done via line breeding, then they will be able to determine early on which puppies are 'show quality' and which are not based on their experience in the show ring on pervious dogs. It is possible to have a 'breed' quality dog, without having shown the dog, however, in most other breeds, dogs are shown and then bred in order to confirm they are worthy of breeding. The issue with that here in the U.S. is the judges do not even know what they are looking at, so it can vary so much from judge to judge - there will always be variation as it's always opinion, but with these dogs here, much more variation than other breeds.


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 Post subject: Re: Importing TRD
 Post Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:12 pm 
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Hi Jess
Yes i know that. I was just say what is probably different between breeding and show quality dog.
About judge its same here. In Europe is a lot of TRD but only few judges realy know this breed and these who don´t know standart so mostly think that bigger, higher and fatter is better.Some like wrinkles some not, some likes realy big head some standart head.... Many people who never saw TRD think that it will be same high like Rhodesian.

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EnricoM wrote:
Hi Jess
Yes i know that. I was just say what is probably different between breeding and show quality dog.
About judge its same here. In Europe is a lot of TRD but only few judges realy know this breed and these who don´t know standart so mostly think that bigger, higher and fatter is better.Some like wrinkles some not, some likes realy big head some standart head.... Many people who never saw TRD think that it will be same high like Rhodesian.



Ahh yes, I re-read your post.. slower this time :lol: Breed quality and show quality should be the same thing. It would be possible to have a breed quality dog that was not show quality if the dog never reached championship due to an injury or something like that..happened to an old friend of mine - she shows all of her dogs to championship (been doing so for 30 years) - and not show after now either - limited showing (she has stunning dogs through years of hard work and line breeding) but one of her near champion bitches broke her leg and could no longer be shown.. which "dropped" her down to breed quality.. but no longer showable - very sad.


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 Post subject: Re: Importing TRD
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:06 am 
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As a foreigner owner:
I would never importing from aboard if I was a first time TRD owner !!
I would import when I become breed especialist and need addition new blood in my line !!
I would only purchase puppy from succesfull line and not adult, 50%/%0% to get better dog !!

As a local breeder:
I would not sold out any adult as I know what fault they carried on !!
I would not place any show prospect with pet family !!
I would not place any pup with first time TRD owner !!


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For reference :
There are no show quality or breeding quality in the dog world, only show prospert are possible ...:)

Show dog are made, they are not born !! Good breeding are from genetic, not luck !!


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